Mafia V: Day Two (April 29th-May 1st): Murderous Intent

...So, did I miss anything?...

Seriously though, I really fell behind on this one, so I'm gonna have to reevaluate the previous day completely before I can even take a guess. It appears though, from what I've seen, that a lot of people are consistently bringing Shiny and Sem up in the conversation, along with maybe a few others, so I'll probably be keeping that in mind, but I'm gonna have to look in for myself whether any suspicions seem justifiable or not before I can really say for certain.

[Linkachu]

Riley, if I was killing the people whom I deem the best players first, Katie would be so dead your head would be spinning.

w00t! Thanks, Red!

But that said...

I was a "driving force" behind Sho getting lynched because he had no fucking logic and he said he wanted Shiny dead despite not thinking she was Mafia! Why lynch somebody when you don't think they're Mafia? That's counterproductive to the Townsfolk. If you weren't suspicious of that, you're honestly an idiot.

I appreciate that Riley didn't take offense to this, but you need to tone it down, Red. This might be a game and people want to get into their "personas", but don't flame other members. Keep it clean. :x

Anyways... holy demonic kittens, Batman. We're off to a very bad start. I'm with Red that I still stand by my decision to lynch Sho - he was definitely being suspicious and his defenses were all over the place - but the doctor going down this early? That's going to cost us. (ILU2 Carmen! :'D)

Going from here, I still feel that Dway and Shiny are suspicious from the previous day, and Red's getting there now too. As for Sem... I'm always suspicious of Sem because I know him, so I can't say one way or another whether he's mafia of not. ;p

Still too early for me to vote, but I'm keeping my eye on who the most talkative members are and who's purposely avoiding getting involved.

Do I need to defend myself from people like.... DS, Riley, Dway, Red, RMA, and Katie? Oh wait, that's like, everyone who's posted here save for two or three others. XD

Anyways, although it was I who had the most dialogue with Sho, and had the most back-and-forth "hey we should lynch you" "no don't lynch me" bouts of almost any game, I hadn't voted for him. I had voted for Dway, because I thought that the two of them were mafia together. I deem both of them as dangerous, and I still do.

And why should we lynch Red? I still can't see to much reason as to why we should. It wasn't he who started the "bandwagon", if we even had one last time, by any stretch; Brendan and Carmi were the first two, like I had stated previously, and he claims that his vote was just to create a tie. I don't know how reliable this statement is, but nevertheless, it is the truth that his vote did put those in favor of my lynching and those in favor of Sho's even. It was only Katie's vote that broke that tie, and then after a bit more discussion... Bam, Sho died.

I still stand by the notion that I don't trust Sem, though. I mean, why did he back me up? I know him at least somewhat well; he's a manipulative person, and he must have some ulterior motive to connect myself with him, so that when he's lynched and it's revealed that he's mafia, the same fate would be applied to me. A risky gamble, but one that could work to bring the number of innocents to mafia down. It certainly worked in game 1, with Dway and Red backing Tan, who eventually... well, was lynched.

I just want Sem down, because I seriously don't trust him. At all. Keep him around for too long, and he drags the rest of us down with him, innocent or not. And what happened when he was killed off in the beginning of game 2? Townspeople won.

That is all~

[Sem]

Townies won last game too and I was still alive at the end of the game. And I was the priest.

You're right, Katie. Sorry Riley, and to everyone else for being a pretty big ass thus far. I know I can get kind of into this game at times, so I'll try to reign myself in.

I also wanted to comment on Riley's random vote thing. I missed your mention of that in your initial post, but I myself had done the exact same thing in the past. I then got accused for it because the person I randomly accused was soon after killed by the mafia. So I don't fault you for being random, especially this early in the game.

And Shiny, I mentioned that I voted to make it a tie last day, when I still thought Sho was Mafia. It was not a defensive stance, that was my genuine reasoning for picking him over you.

To be honest, I don't get the mass suspicion of Sem. Shiny? Yeah. Myself? Sure, I'm playing like a lunatic. Dway? Yeah, she's suspicious. Sem? He's really done nothing but make funny remarks and point out things to avoid for people. I don't consider that suspicious, but helpful. True Sem had a bad time in Game 1, but that was ages ago. I'm willing to let him get a clean slate and trust him because I really don't think he's mafia (we'd know if he was, he's a terrible liar).

[Yoshimitsu]

Frankly at this point it seems that Red is being overly defensive of himself.

Just as a random note, I have real issues with everyone who tries to use this argument. "Overly defensive" is not a thing that really happens. It's just normal defensive, exactly the same as it would be outside of a Mafia game if you accused someone of something. Everyone's pretty guilty of saying it (myself included, I know) but it doesn't make a lot of sense. It's basically jumping to conclusions when someone puts forth an argument to say they're not mafia. I get that the game's all about being suspicious of people, but I'm pretty certain there'll be other clues besides just "overly defensive".

Just thought I'd chip in with that.

Just as a random note, I have real issues with everyone who tries to use this argument. "Overly defensive" is not a thing that really happens. It's just normal defensive, exactly the same as it would be outside of a Mafia game if you accused someone of something. Everyone's pretty guilty of saying it (myself included, I know) but it doesn't make a lot of sense. It's basically jumping to conclusions when someone puts forth an argument to say they're not mafia. I get that the game's all about being suspicious of people, but I'm pretty certain there'll be other clues besides just "overly defensive".

Just thought I'd chip in with that.

Fair point, El. I didn't mean to sound antagonizing, if it came off like that. I apologize if it did.

Red has an admirable point, but what we need to keep in mind here is that everyone is guilty until proven innocent. That doesn't lift any suspicion off of Sem, or anyone else in this game, including myself. I'll admit I'm probably not the best player of Mafia as a whole.

[Yoshimitsu]

Fair point, El. I didn't mean to sound antagonizing, if it came off like that. I apologize if it did.

I wasn't singling you out or anything just so you know, "overly defensive" is probably the most used combination of words in any Mafia game.

I also wanted to comment on Riley's random vote thing. I missed your mention of that in your initial post, but I myself had done the exact same thing in the past. I then got accused for it because the person I randomly accused was soon after killed by the mafia. So I don't fault you for being random, especially this early in the game.

Thanks for realising this Red ^^

And Sem is coming off as too nice and helpful for my liking D:

I currently have zero suspicions against Dwayna or Ethan, but as it has turned out in the previous three rounds of Mafia I was in, I should not be trusting my gut feelings.

Still, I am prematurely voting for Shiny to be lynched, due to the reasoning from the last round where I voted for her as well. Second on my list is NidoRich- I'm still clinging to those two as the most suspicious.

[Sem]

Terrible liar? That's the most hurtful thing anyone's ever said to me ='(

Kill, Red! Do it! D=<

I currently have zero suspicions against Dwayna or Ethan, but as it has turned out in the previous three rounds of Mafia I was in, I should not be trusting my gut feelings.

Still, I am prematurely voting for Shiny to be lynched, due to the reasoning from the last round where I voted for her as well. Second on my list is NidoRich- I'm still clinging to those two as the most suspicious.

I really don't get how I am one of the more suspicious in your eyes when there are more suspicious people around
Unless of course you are mafia and are covering for other people in your mafia family who are under the microscope at the moment.

All in all, I am going to hold of on a lynch yet simply because who knows what info will get out between now and the final moments of this phase.

DS, I can assure you that that's not the way you want to go right now. Like, really.

I read your post from last time regarding my lynching from you, and I can't really garner any true reasoning as to why you find me suspicious. I mean, yes, I've been accusing people, but so has most other people. I've been trying to help just by throwing ideas around, because it would be counterproductive to just abstain this day again. And last time? It was because of the really silly accusations aimed my way by Dway (at the time you posted) and Sho.

I didn't think they were all that silly.

Using the same quote over and over again isn't silly, especially when I obviously made that comment as a joke?

Okay, I admit that Dway's arguments were better, but I can assure you that lynching me off isn't the smartest idea this round. Mistakes can be made, but some mistakes end up hurting people moreso than other ones.

DS your like an enigma at the moment x.x Even though you have spoken more this day you still don't seem to have any identity, it's like you are just a figment of our imagination. I find it kinda creepy don't know why, just thought I would put that out there

I'm just trying to be a little bit more professional about it this round, Riley- Although I can understand that it could be taken the wrong way, since I'm very likely not executing it the right way.

Also, Shiny? Your two most recent posts sounds more like threats then warnings, although that might just be me. I voted for you, and even if I wanted to alter my vote, I can't now. If it turns out you're innocent, I will be terribly, terribly sorry- But I don't think you are.

I'm just trying to be a little bit more professional about it this round, Riley- Although I can understand that it could be taken the wrong way, since I'm very likely not executing it the right way.

Also, Shiny? Your two most recent posts sounds more like threats then warnings, although that might just be me. I voted for you, and even if I wanted to alter my vote, I can't now. If it turns out you're innocent, I will be terribly, terribly sorry- But I don't think you are.

There is an edit button

Just saying

No, that would be like cheating, Rich.

DS, I didn't mean it as a threat; I meant to aim that at everyone who might've considered voting for me. Really, it's not a smart idea for anyone.

[Sem]

Nido, that is dishonest/cheating! :V

Kill NidoRich.